My bud and fellow judge Steve C has posted a great explanation of showa
pattern and the general rules of balance over on Koi Bito that everyone
should read and absorb.
I do not wish to take away from his lesson and post below his post as
I think it will take his lesson off track and I don't want that. So here
is an additional thought about showa pattern and really, all patterns.
As Steve points out, a pattern needs to be balanced or the fish will be:
*front heavy
*back heavy
* side heavy ( lopsided)
* a natural fish pattern . IE too heavy and non artistic. This takes away
from the surreal effect of nishikigoi and leads a koi to be more of a
colored carp in status.
But probably most important of all is the lesson of jitai. In it’s
expanded concept, a pattern needs to ‘fit’ the body the high
quality white skin is draped on. Meaning, a pattern needs to FLOW down
a koi so that the body line is complimented and accented. This is an advanced
judging concept but quite easy for the artistic person with no training
to understand. Often the words can escape the observer but the phrase
‘just right’ just as often satisfies that loss for words.
Balance is another description but one must be careful with the generalization
of this word. Balance yes, but not always the western definition which
involves symmetry. Symmetry is appreciated no doubt but balance refers
more to ‘flow over the body line’ than left-right symmetry.
It is helpful to go to a dealer ( or meet me/us at Carl’s or Matt’s)
so that a tank of koi can be observed and the difference can be seen first
hand. It is amazing how many fish in the small sizes are flawed in this
jitai concept. Probably why they were sold off to begin with.
There is nothing wrong with falling in love with a pattern as a learning
experience. And it is amazing how observation at home, over time, delivers
a ‘final message’ to the owner of a once much admired fish!
But if you want to buy a fish that will last and not disappoint your eye
down the road, try and learn the rules of balance and the lesson of jitai
as an expanded concept. JR
Posted
by MikeM on 1/30/2007, in reply to "showa and pattern"
It
seems to me that pattern is more important in Showa than in the other
gosanke, and more important in Sanke than in Kohaku... taking a backseat
to quality/conformation, but still differing in relative importance. I
think it is the difficulty of achieving "balance" with the differing
roles of Sumi: as an accentuating mark in Sanke, and as the determinant
of the powerful impression in Showa. This is not necessarily consciously
considered when selecting a fish or judging, but rather inherent in the
factors weighted in making a personal or judging evaluation.
Thoughts?
Posted
by daniel on 1/31/2007, in reply to "Re: showa and pattern"
Mike
The way I always understood the pattern issue is that you start like a
painting. You do the background. Pure white. Then you add the primary
color pattern, the Kohaku red. Then after you have a nice Kohaku, you
start adding the sumi. And how that color interplays with the others gives
you the overall pattern.
But with Showa and Sanke, you must start with a nice Kohaku pattern first.
No matter how good the sumi pattern ends up being, if the Kohaku pattern
is not right, then the end result is not acceptable as a good specimen.
At least that is the way I always remember being taught.
It seems that Showa more than Sanke has morphed somewhat over the years.
While heavy patterns are still produced, it seems there is a more refined
lighter pattern that is more of a favorite these days.
-d
Posted
by James P on 1/31/2007, 1:10 pm, in reply to "Re: showa and pattern"
"But
with Showa and Sanke, you must start with a nice Kohaku pattern first.
No matter how good the sumi pattern ends up being, if the Kohaku pattern
is not right, then the end result is not acceptable as a good specimen."-
d
d, this part is certainly 'not wrong' and right on the superficial level
but not a rule. Just one way to describe a good fish.
A kohaku pattern flows down a koi's body. It 'suits' the body of the fish
we are looking at. In the early days we used to suggest that patterns
could be too small for adult fish and too large for baby fish. Or maybe
a pattern was just right for a baby but the same pattern would not grow
well into an adult body. This turns out to be another lesson that was
a step in learning but unfortunately NOT the path to understanding.
The use of kohaku blood into sanke and sanke into showa could make your
statement MORE true as time goes by. But showa is from different background
and as such has a unique pattern. Many great showa actually have poor
kohaku pattern. But the judges are not looking for a 'kohaku' trapped
in the body of every showa! Instead, they are looking for the quality
elements of gosanke. ( remember the meaning of the word GoSanke).
so what we WANT is the quality elements of kohaku but the IMPRESSION or
look of showa. This changes the balance issues and aspects of the pattern.
Here is a good example , I think, of a world class showa. It has the quality
beni of a kohaku but the 'kohaku pattern' is front heavy. If this were
a kohaku it would not make it very far at all in the All Japan. In fact,
it would probably not make it at all TO the All Japan! LOls
But the showa elements of the pattern can only be described one way- SUMI
POWER/PLACEMENT. This is what makes this a winning fish. But more importantly
it is a fish of superior body and skin elements- quality, quality, quality.
Have a great day d, JR
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Posted
by daniel on 2/1/2007, in reply to "Re: showa and pattern"
Agreed
JR
IF you look at only the Kohaku pattern, the fish would be lacking. It
has wonderful skin and the hi is sharp and crisp. But once again, when
you talk about "rules" this is a great example.
To really judge the fish, you must take in the whole fish, not just parts
of the fish. (I think I quote you?) As a whole, it is breathtaking. The
interplay between the colors and patterns is superb. And as usual in a
great fish, the shiro is spectacular. And from there on out, it is a perfect
a fish as a person could ask for.
As you state, a truely powerful pattern, on a truely powerful fish.
Best
-d
Posted
by MikeM on 2/2/2007, in reply to "Re: showa and pattern"
JR,
your explanation is getting very close to why I was suggesting that among
the gosanke, pattern is more important to Showa than to Kohaku and Sanke.
(Always secondary to quality,of course.) A Kohaku can reach a high level
of distinction based on quality alone. But Showa has a need for pattern
as well as quality to have the character of Showa.
I agree that pattern is most important to Tancho Kohaku compared to Tancho
Sanke or Tancho Showa. I'd explain the reason as: The Tancho Kohaku has
only one mark to distinguish it from Shiromuji, so that mark has to be
in near perfect harmony with the body shape for a specimen to be accomplished.
With Tancho Sanke and Tancho Showa, there is more opportunity for the
Sumi to counter-balance an imperfection in the maruten.
I cannot decide whether pattern is more important in Tancho Sanke compared
to Tancho Showa or vice versa. ...rather like the angels on the pin.
Posted by James P on 1/30/2007, in reply to "Re:
showa and pattern"
No
way Mike. In truth, pattern can be a distraction in showa judging- confusing
the intermediate judge and collector. Of all the koi varieties I guess
I would say it is tancho that is most dependent on pattern.
all KOI are first subject to conformation, then quality of skin and then
color quality. Pattern can separate show fish from collector fish for
sure, but once you have identified show fish it become a matter of age
as to how important pattern becomes. JR
Posted
by James P on 1/30/2007, in reply to "Re: showa and pattern"
Mike,
ti re-enforce those comments:
A showa is perhaps THE most flawed variety. Its common deformities include
head anomilies, mouth deformities and gill plate issues. Showa also frequently
suffer from deformed pec fins ( tiny) and split dorsals ( two sections).
Often missing eye lens and missing barbels are missed. And finally, many
showa have short bodies.
The pattern tends to hind all this!
You are correct and very observant in that showa pattern can add to the
shape and therefore POWER of showa in a subjective support of showa '
as a concept'. But then again--
kohaku, for instance, is 'better' if it is a refined three or four step
with a horse shoe face pattern and a nice odome at the tail. It is truly
then, a refined piece of art= an artistic prototype! BUT the heavy mask
of some koi hint of the wild pattern that make koi very large. So we accept
masked and inazuma koi for want THAT trait brings to the variety- but
still we idolize the artistic 'refined' koi as a standard prototype. JR
Posted
by MikeM on 1/31/2007, in reply to "Re: showa and pattern"
Are
you speaking of Tancho as a class, or just Tancho Kohaku? (As being the
variety in which pattern is more important.)
Posted
by James P on 1/31/2007, in reply to "Re: showa and pattern"
Tancho
kohaku , Mike. JR
Posted
by MikeM on 1/31/2007, in reply to "Re: showa and pattern"
Why
do think pattern is more important to Tancho Kohaku than Tancho Sanke
or Tancho Showa? [I agree, but am wondering if our reasons are the same.]
Posted
by James P on 1/31/2007, in reply to "Re: showa and pattern"
Morning
Mike. Tancho kohaku is a very interesting variety! Beginners love them,
then they find them boring and then they re-discover them!
A tancho ( kohaku) is considered THE living example for Jitai study because
it can't hind it's quality elements with a flashy pattern!
It is a 'naked' fish in that regard. Yet it HAS the elements, or potential
for the quality assessment, of kohaku- all of them.
So we look at the 'skin' first. In the old days, judges would look for
blood shot skin, buff skin and then shape of body and finally a round
spot. It seemed so easy that eventually negative judging took over and
fault hunting judged the koi rather than positive elements like jitai.
We lost the lesson in America at that point as we thought 'saying nice
things about a koi' was what was meant by being 'positive' in our judging.In
truth it is really a postive approach regarding a search for quality/
the holy grail.
Today we understand better that judging tancho starts with quality elements
of body, skin texture and type- and finally, THICKNESS of beni and a shape
that works with the body. So Tancho need not be perfectly round- desirable
in a perfect world?-- yes! But square tanchos work just as well IF they
are thick, show high class beni and MATCH the skin and frame of a high
class kohaku.In truth, large tancho pattern plates match large females
and small thin males do well with small round tancho plates. But it is
the whole fish being judged. And if the whole fish is of quality then
the shape becomes less important- not unlike issues of beni in fins and
beni touching tails and eyes in the kohaku clan proper.
So to summarize, Tancho kohaku allows the koi student to study the shape
of a body without distraction and also a way to study pure white skin
to learn to see high class white,bellowy, trnslucent,porcelain skin Vs
the harder white male skin or the tateshite type skin. Soon the light
bulb goes on and you SEE the differences. Then isolated comments about
blood shot skin or buff color are put into context. The tail no longer
wags the dog.
-JR
Posted
by Brady Brandwood on 1/30/2007, in reply to "Re: showa and pattern"
I don't
see Showa as being any more prone to flaws than other varieties (these
days). I look through a lot of Showa, Sanke, & Kohaku fry each season,
and find more flaws in Kohakus actually,... BUT they're culled out. They're
easily visible. What happens is flaws are missed more often in Showas
during culling, and the fish is allowed to grow more which eventually
reveals the flaw, as JR eluded to. This gives the impression that flaws
are more common in Showas, because some of the flawed fish actually get
to the hobbyist,... (hidden in the intricate patterning) rather than being
caught in the early culls.
I personally would like to see a lot of what has been written on Showa
up to this point be re-evaluated and updated.
Best Wishes,
Brady Brandwood
Posted
by mike pfeffer on 1/30/2007, 7:23 pm, in reply to "showa and pattern"
Jim-
I take it there is not a one word definition for jitai. "ji"
is the white background. So, the longer definition of jitai would be....?????
Thanks
-Mike
Posted
by James P on 1/30/2007, 9:04 pm, in reply to "Re: showa and pattern"
Hi
Mike, Jitai in its most basic use is an attempt to discuss QUALITY of
white ground. And this is how breeders will use the word.
The ZNA judges use the quality trait of shiro ground ( translucent porcelain
white) on the quality frame ( body structure). Taken to the final step
of the concept, we wish to see a properly sized pattern formation on this
quality skin and a high quality body type. And ideally we are talking
about adult and young adult fish. As I’ve mentioned before, tancho
is the very best fish to study jitai on- white skin, a ‘naked body’
and a pattern ( tancho) that must fit the body type.
This is also why adult fish are judged strongly on body and skin quality
than the pattern and why baby fish, with no adult development as of yet,
are judged primarily on pattern and color.
-JR
Posted
by dick benbow on 1/30/2007, in reply to "showa and pattern"
good
students make good teachers...and i think
the first step is to seek knowledge. I think the next step is hardest
and that is understanding,
because once you grasp that then the final step in the process of application
is quite easy (and enjoyable) as the next installment of your lesson plan
"teach"....since often times it takes
many many years before a tategoi showa has developed it's pattern and
filled in the process
of sumi, how does one select with younger koi, a pattern that will fit
with the koi (jitai)when it ages. I think most of us here realize that
the answer is probably unanswerable at tosai but what about nisei? I think
the problem we all have is trying to afford the best, but not being able
to
purchase a koi older in age when the question mark on development is eliminated.
Any insights you may have to share would be appreciated.
Posted
by James P on 1/30/2007, in reply to "Re: showa and pattern"
Hi
Dick,
I think that we have to qualify our comments and apply terminology to
what it is we are discussing.
IF we are talking about buying koi, especially promising koi YOUNG koi,
you can’t really discuss points that apply to the finished adult
show fish only. Instead you are looking for young traits that hint of
a future better show fish.
So we talk about bone structure hints, sashi conversations, beni characteristics
etc. This implies we are assessing:
1) a body that is not adult but should finish into a nice adult body
2) characteristics of shiro ground that lead to thinker but delicate finished
shiroji and also a bellowing dermis and epidermis WHEN this develops later
in life as an adult.
3) young beni that will likely be covered by additional coats ( depth)
of beni over time
4) a pattern that is elastic in nature and a vison of what that pattern
may look like when color solidify and finish happens.
If we are talking about a young finished male fish, we KNOW what the reality
of this fish already is. It is beautiful, of a normal baby conformation,
has hard white skin , bright colors and a shape fixed and above all- pleasing
pattern.
When I was a beginner judge, I used to see baby champions as miniature
Grand Champions. Now I understand that all they have in common is that
they are BOTH finished. Otherwise they are VERY DIFFERENT animals.
And if we have an adult female we are assessing rarity. Jitai ( all those
quality aspects mentioned already) is key in that it captures the essence
of quality- the most rare traits of all.
When a breeder tells you that your greatest risk is in buying unfinished
one and two year olds- he ain’t kidd’en!!!!
The price is higher and the risk is lower as time brings progressive finish
and less guess to the table. So three year olds are often mentioned as
the hard guessing time is passed. At four, even less guess and the jitai
is there or it isn’t.
This all makes showa the hardest to assess- especially wishing on pattern!
The body, the quality of ground an the quality of color will over come
the pattern.. At least as the standard states it should be. If it flows
OVER the perfect body of a high quality adult fish, details of that pattern
become less and less relevant.
Posted
by Steve Childers on 1/30/2007, in reply to "Re: showa and pattern"
Thanks
for the kind words JR conserning my Bito post.
Dick, you asked about sellecting at Nisai. I received an email some years
back from the boys in Dallas (D&G). Gene had been emailed a picture
from Tim of a 2 year old Kin Di Showa, Sakai (Isawa) I believe. He asked
me my opinion. I was astounded. It was a beautiful Koi but gene was still
not convinced. My best advise was that if he didn't like it, then don't
buy it.
Some people have a better eye and knowledge of developement than others.
Hints of Sumi here and there develope as you well know. I told Gene that
before he made his decision, to print a large picture of the Koi and take
a Sharpie and color in the grey areas, slightly larger than what they
appeared as. After he had done so, guess what? He bought the koi! I have
had the honor of watchinhg this Koi's progression and you know what? Today,
it looks almost exactly like the colored in picture.
This is a trick that perhaps some people could use to get a better idea
of the "possibilities." I wouldn't suggest such for a Tosai
Showa, but for a Nisai, Kin Di Showa it could work well for others too.
-Steve
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